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#1 Scott Klepetar

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Posted 26 October 2004 - 10:42 AM

Ok the time has come were I must start to Recell my old Pro Batteries. Anyone know of a good place in the LA Area. I remeber someone talking about a place in Burbank but I can not seem to find the post on here or in the archives. Please feel free to E-mail me.

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#2 David Allen Grove

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Posted 26 October 2004 - 12:03 PM

This information can be easily found on the Steadicam Guild web site (at least I hope it's easy for everyone). ;)

go here.. http://www.steadicamguild.net then click on "Resources"
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 03:18 PM

Ok the time has come were I must start to Recell my old Pro Batteries. Anyone know of a good place in the LA Area. I remeber someone talking about a place in Burbank but I can not seem to find the post on here or in the archives. Please feel free to E-mail me.

Thanks,

Scott Klepetar

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Scott,

You can also purchase brand new ProPac 14 batteries from Anton/Bauer (List $355.00 each) that come with a 3 year warranty.

Paul
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 08:15 PM

We re-cell PRO batteries all the time....

www.lentequip.com

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#5 RonBaldwin

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Posted 26 November 2004 - 10:36 AM

Scott,
I just had all 10 of my old style pro batts re-celled in October. I checked around a bit and just sent them to pro. I even considered upgrading to the AB...too much bling (new lower sled, new chargers, new batts, new sled case..).

When all was said and done, it was about $1500 for 10 batteries (a great deal -- considering they fixed 5 barely working meters, shimmed the cells for me, and shipped them next day). The whole thing took 5 or 6 days.

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#6 Dave Chameides

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 09:52 AM

For starters, I know how many comments I'm going to get about using original PRO batts at this point so consider them sent.

Anyone have a good place for recelling these things? I used a place in woodland hills last year and they haven't lasted that long.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 12:04 PM

For starters, I know how many comments I'm going to get about using original PRO batts at this point so consider them sent.

Anyone have a good place for recelling these things? I used a place in woodland hills last year and they haven't lasted that long.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Peace


Dave,

Give me a call and I will "make you an offer you can't refuse" to replace them with brand new ProPac 14 batteries that come with a MAXX IV (4) year warranty.

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#8 Charles Papert

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:13 PM

Paul:

Would the warranty still be good on those batteries after Dave has shoehorned them into the battery rack of his PRO1...?!

(btw--the 7 Dionics you sold me that came off the 2004 Olympics are all still going strong, despite my best efforts to kill them: drawing heavy loads like the Genesis, not keeping them on the charger between uses, etc. For me at least the theory/rumor that they have a 1 year life regardless of use has been proven otherwise)

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 04:10 PM

Paul:

Would the warranty still be good on those batteries after Dave has shoehorned them into the battery rack of his PRO1...?!

(btw--the 7 Dionics you sold me that came off the 2004 Olympics are all still going strong, despite my best efforts to kill them: drawing heavy loads like the Genesis, not keeping them on the charger between uses, etc. For me at least the theory/rumor that they have a 1 year life regardless of use has been proven otherwise)



hi Dave,
I had 10 re-celled through PRO last year...I think it was about $1,200 and took 3 days.

Maybe we can convert our old-school rigs to wvo or solar? On a side note, my friend just bought that diesel Land Cruiser and is researching your articles -- a great read if you guys don't know what Dave has done ( http://www.edmunds.c...12/article.html ).

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#10 Erwin Landau

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 04:35 PM

Hey Dave,

The best way is still to get them to GPI. They are still recelling the old bricks... and quite some guys still fly them with great results...

But if you are looking for an alternative try these guys:

Gary & Debby
Batteries Plus



work 1 (805) 494-8484
work fax 1 (805) 494-8486

work bpmail@batteriesplus312.com

work www.batteriesplus.com

work 1742 N. Moorpark Road
Thousand Oaks CA 91360

They are doing a great job with Anton Bauers... they recelled most of my 30 AB batteries over the years. Mainly NiCad's but Gary figured out who to recell the Hytrons NiMH too. An they recycle the old cells for you for free.

FYI:
Also If you have any old batteries... they can be dropped of at any IKEA at the Costumer service area. They also take Light bulbs and the lifer saver bulbs as well as printer cartridges... way better then the landfill...


Be safe,

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#11 Ron L Rathbone

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:52 PM

For starters, I know how many comments I'm going to get about using original PRO batts at this point so consider them sent.

Anyone have a good place for recelling these things? I used a place in woodland hills last year and they haven't lasted that long.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Peace

Hello David,

We rebuild the
Old original ProPacs with the metal bands, Standard ProPac
The Logic ProPac
The Logic Digital ProPac
The Hytron 50
The Hytron 100 Series
And we can convert your 60WH Nickel Cadmium Propac to 150WH Ni-MH IF you own or intend to purchase a Cadex or PAG analyzer.

I do not know which "old" ProPac you have so Please see the following links for details:
Broadcast Batteries: Look for your particular link within the page:
http://www.rathbonee...t/broadcast.htm

Nickel Cadmium ProPac conversion to Nickel Metal Hydride:
http://www.rathbonee..._conversion.htm

Logic Digital ProPac, with LCD:
http://www.rathbonee...ital_p500dr.htm

Logic ProPac, No LCD
http://www.rathbonee...ogic_p500dr.htm

Hytron 100 Series upgraded to 150WH:
http://www.rathbonee..._rebuilding.htm

Dionic Series:
http://www.rathbonee..._rebuilding.htm

Amateur Rebuilding Work Examples:
http://www.rathbonee...ateurs_work.htm

Stable Vendor:
http://www.rathbonee...able_vendor.htm

Current Lead time: 1 week
May 31, 2007 we dropped or preferred vendor of three years due to excessive and inexsistant lead times on battery cells with no response but apathy. 39 out of 88 weeks we were without battery cells even though we were on a blanket order. This hurt us and our clients. We started sourcing new vendors WITHOUT GOING CHINESE! FInally, in mid-August replacement battery cells from Sanyo begain to arrive and continue to arrive like they should.

We have gone with Sanyo and Panasonic across trhe board. Panasonic no longer produces large cell ni-cd battery cells. Sanyo has the only 10AH Ni-MH actually in the US at this time.

Everything we do comes with the BEST Sanyo or Panasonic battery cells available and with paper tube insulators. See the specifications on each page.

Battery Manufacturers Impact on Time and Price:
http://www.rathbonee...urers_impac.htm

Dave, we are a true battery assembler and also a rebuilder of dry cell rechargeable battery packs for the last eighteen years. As for rebuilding we see battery packs built by battery pack sub-contractors around the world, see the condition of the packs at the end of their life and learn the histry of some battery packs from their respective users. For these reasons and many more we know the true charasteristics of differnet battery chemicals and chargers.

When you consider the purchase or rebuild of a Lithium Ion battery pack the average life expectancy is +/- 200 charge - discharge cycles. Read the battery cell manufacturers spec sheets which can be found on our web site. If someone happens to get more than this life they are the exception.

Also, I am very surprised just how many people do not know how to use their AB 2702 with DDM. IF you select a channel on display and hold in the test button for a few seconds you will be provided with the charge - discharge cycles of a particular AB battery. Is it real time / world accurate? Not in my opinion but it is something.


Sincerely,

Ron L. Rathbone
800-223-1775
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#12 Charles Papert

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:02 PM

I guess I was being too subtle by including a picture of the batteries in my earlier post...?

PRO batteries are just that, not ProPacs. Proprietary shell made by GPI to fit the original PRO 1 sled. See the picture.
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#13 Ron L Rathbone

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:40 PM

For starters, I know how many comments I'm going to get about using original PRO batts at this point so consider them sent.

Anyone have a good place for recelling these things? I used a place in woodland hills last year and they haven't lasted that long.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Peace

Dave,

I just read a post by Charles and realized you may have been talking about a different battery.

We recell thiese as well. I do not think I have them up on the web site but maybe this weekend I can get the Pro and Strand Lighting battery pack pages up on rathboneenergy.com.

If in error I apologize for the other thread.

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#14 Dave Chameides

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 11:26 AM

Yoinks. I thought no one had responded as i was supposed to be getting email updates. Sorry for my absence and thanks for all the info. I'm going to go with good old Pro after allis said and done. Also, reverting my screen to the old Model I I have sitting in the closet and exchanging my arm pivot for the hinge from the front door, just so i can out old school the old schoolers.

Ron, throw my email to your buddy with the land rover, I'd be glad to help if I can.

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#15 Ron L Rathbone

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 10:28 AM

Ok the time has come were I must start to Recell my old Pro Batteries. Anyone know of a good place in the LA Area. I remeber someone talking about a place in Burbank but I can not seem to find the post on here or in the archives. Please feel free to E-mail me.

Thanks,

Scott Klepetar

Hello Scott,

Ron Rathbone
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