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#1 Amando Crespo

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:27 PM

Can you beat this man, although he was a very important person?.
Cristiano Ronaldo, spat to an steadicam operator when finishing a soccer match.
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#2 mike laureys

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:44 PM

I saw it on television and thought what an ass!!
bud I also thought what is this opp doing???walking close profile and then even in front .....
somewhere else on the forum there is the discussion about other opps. on the worldcup coming up to close well this was one of them!!

BUD THAT ASSHOLE DIDN'T NEED TO SPIT!!!
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#3 Louis Puli SOC

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:54 PM

Can you beat this man, although he was a very important person?.
Cristiano Ronaldo, spat to an steadicam operator when finishing a soccer match.

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Excuse me BUT all he is, is an overpaid football player how believes everything he reads about himself.
just my 2cents
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#4 Henry Gelhart

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:51 AM

Jeez.
It's almost time to create a World Cup topic here!

But seriously! Freaking dangerous to operate down there! Be aware of players spitting on you, players running into the Steadicam, Rooney yelling at you and of course... Gabriel Heinze!
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#5 RonBaldwin

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:12 AM

not condoning the spitting, but to be in the players faces like that is closer to paparazzi than professional camera operator. Plus we only see the one time he spat, maybe there have been several other instances where a camera was in all up in his gooch. Perhaps it's time to be like, uh, all the other camera ops/crews in the world and give people some space?

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:07 AM

I found this:
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkermZqCMUw"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ZkermZqCMUw[/url]

I did notice the op pulled back and lensed in after Cristiano's words
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#7 mark morgan

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 12:09 PM

not sure but it looked like the op was zoomed in
and i really don't think he spit on the op,
but maybe that particular op is on the forum and will chime in
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#8 Kevin Andrews SOC

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:23 PM

Can you beat this man, although he was a very important person?.
Cristiano Ronaldo, spat to an steadicam operator when finishing a soccer match.
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I could beat this man if he did it to me. :D


I think any pro athlete needs to realize that in this day and age, being televised is part of the job. They are basically performers. I say get as close as you need to to film them since that is part of their job besides playing sports games for a living. Media Advertising is paying their mortgage, not their great ball kicking skills. Lame.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 05:15 PM

Can you beat this man, although he was a very important person?.
Cristiano Ronaldo, spat to an steadicam operator when finishing a soccer match.
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I could beat this man if he did it to me. :D


I think any pro athlete needs to realize that in this day and age, being televised is part of the job. They are basically performers. I say get as close as you need to to film them since that is part of their job besides playing sports games for a living. Media Advertising is paying their mortgage, not their great ball kicking skills. Lame.



I see your point and agree to a certain extent, but the op was only an arm's length away -- but still not as close as that moron who got head-butted. I know we are all supposed to be working together but to me it still seems like some seem to be pushing the line between camera op and paparazzi. In addition to all the ethical/etiquette related concerns, it really boils down to being too damn close to a bunch of guys with raging testosterone and adrenaline highs. Stay back from the bull.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 05:54 PM

if I had a movie where I trained 4 years for and I f#$%@ up and got fired
two weeks before the end and the making of guy was filming how I was walking away
I would kick his ass!!

bud again christian ronaldo is a big ass#$%&

the netherland will win the wc anyway!!!
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#11 Sydney Seeber

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:12 PM

the closer the cameras get the more this is gonna happen. No matter what the sport is, the game is ruled by emotion. If you're a sports camera op guy, you're just that... A camera op. Emotion does not rule your day. sensing when to back the f*ck up should be part of the job responsibility. (That particular comment wasn't directed at this scenario in particular... Just in general, as this happens more and more these days) I'm of the opinion that there's too much crap on all playing fields these days. On the other side of the fence, it's both cool and annoying at the same time.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:02 PM

Can you beat this man, although he was a very important person?.
Cristiano Ronaldo, spat to an steadicam operator when finishing a soccer match.
Attached File  la foto.JPG   178.02KB   225 downloads



I could beat this man if he did it to me. :D


I think any pro athlete needs to realize that in this day and age, being televised is part of the job. They are basically performers. I say get as close as you need to to film them since that is part of their job besides playing sports games for a living. Media Advertising is paying their mortgage, not their great ball kicking skills. Lame.



I see your point and agree to a certain extent, but the op was only an arm's length away -- but still not as close as that moron who got head-butted. I know we are all supposed to be working together but to me it still seems like some seem to be pushing the line between camera op and paparazzi. In addition to all the ethical/etiquette related concerns, it really boils down to being too damn close to a bunch of guys with raging testosterone and adrenaline highs. Stay back from the bull.



Zoom control for these guys would help them stay back a bit, but if I am shooting a coin toss and I want that "part of the group wide look", is it ok for some hot headed football player to shove me out of the circle. Hells no.

I would not try to cross in front of a soccer player while they are trekking off the field in high gear though like the example video above. That is cutting it too close and that is where the op started to be in the wrong IMHO
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#13 Sydney Seeber

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:16 PM

is it ok for some hot headed football player to shove me out of the circle. Hells no.


see, now there's your problem. A camera op is on a playing field to find a usable shot and stay the f*ck out of the way... 50:50. As far as you wanting a particular shot... c'mon, bro. Find it. Sports isn't narrative drama.
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#14 Kevin Andrews SOC

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:30 PM

is it ok for some hot headed football player to shove me out of the circle. Hells no.


see, now there's your problem. A camera op is on a playing field to find a usable shot and stay the f*ck out of the way... 50:50. As far as you wanting a particular shot... c'mon, bro. Find it. Sports isn't narrative drama.



I guess my point was, where is the line drawn. If I'm on the field or on the sidelines, I'm obviously trying to be aware of the players and not cut them off or stalk them up close. But I still have a job to do like they have a game to win.

And of course, if they are a big mofo, I'm going to just grab a zoom if the director wants a reaction shot to his fumble. From a good distance :o
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#15 Sydney Seeber

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 09:07 PM

like I said, athletics are played on an emotional level just as much as a physical one. The closer the camera physically gets to the action, or accidentally gets in the middle of said action, the greater the risk of "Problems". Personally I don't hold much weight to this whole spitting thing. If he's a doucher off the field, (I really have no idea) well that's unfortunate, but I'm of the opinion that what happens on the field has very little to do with what happens off of it. Some of the best athletes in history are well known in athletic circles for being uber competitive on the court/field, and in some cases, real assholes. Michael Jordan is a great example. Most people out there know how dynamic and nice he seemed off court.
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