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#1 Lars Erik

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:07 AM

Ok, I've seen Avatar. Story not that good, but the technology was pleasing and very interesting. I don't think it's quite there yet. It still needs a few years to become truly competative with 2D in the long run. But great fun.

Now I just read that Sky is aiming to start showing Premiere League games in 3D. Maybe I missed something here, but to me it just seems that Sky is just going with all the hype of 3D these days.

I really don't see the point of going 3D on a football game. To me it could be more distracting than anything else. Watching the likes of Rooney and Fabregas running around the pitch is best viewed in 2D, so you can see the passes and dribbling and the goals more clearly. Sure, it could be fun in 3D, but I hope it stays in 2D.

That said, I'm always open to new ideas, so before seeing the footage in 3D, I'll keep my own door open for the possibilities of football in 3D.

http://www.guardian....r-united-3d-sky
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#2 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:13 AM

Ok, I've seen Avatar. Story not that good, but the technology was pleasing and very interesting. I don't think it's quite there yet. It still needs a few years to become truly competative with 2D in the long run. But great fun.

Now I just read that Sky is aiming to start showing Premiere League games in 3D. Maybe I missed something here, but to me it just seems that Sky is just going with all the hype of 3D these days.

I really don't see the point of going 3D on a football game. To me it could be more distracting than anything else. Watching the likes of Rooney and Fabregas running around the pitch is best viewed in 2D, so you can see the passes and dribbling and the goals more clearly. Sure, it could be fun in 3D, but I hope it stays in 2D.

That said, I'm always open to new ideas, so before seeing the footage in 3D, I'll keep my own door open for the possibilities of football in 3D.

http://www.guardian....r-united-3d-sky



I've seen real football (American Football) in 3D, and by god 3D was made for it. it was awesome
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#3 Santiago Yniguez

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:22 AM

I second That! Once you've seen either realms of football, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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#4 Charles Papert

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 03:04 AM

I'm pretty mixed on 3D for narrative overall, but I think it's a great addition for sports (just as HD was), even though I admittedly don't watch any. Hmm, confusing.
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#5 Lars Erik

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 03:29 AM

I've seen real football (American Football) in 3D, and by god 3D was made for it. it was awesome
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Hmm...maybe my door will be more open towards 3D in sports. Can't wait to see a finished result, as it has just been shown on American football, I have to wait to see the end result on real football (soccer).
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#6 Lukas Franz

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 08:02 AM

As FIFA in Zurich already has announced, the soccer world cup in South Africa this summer will actually be broadcasted in 3D. I'm just not shure where you'll be able to watch it in 3D. We'll see...

Cheers everyone.
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http://www.fifa.com/...id=1143253.html

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#7 Mike McGowan SOC

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:35 AM

Funny, I saw Avatar in IMAX 3D and I still cant stop thinking about how frickin awesome that movie was on so many levels. I actually found myself doing the same thing the 8 year olds do, reaching for the fire flys..... Make it so I don't have to wear those stupid glasses and I'm sold.

As for sports, the only thing lamer than football (US or Euro) is baseball (and then maybe cricket). Give me some exciting sports (like MMA, Wake Boarding, Rock Climbing, Vert Skating, Cliff Diving, Snow Boarding, etc.) and I'll watch them in 2D, 3D or any other D.......... MMA in 3D would kind of kick ass you must admit.
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#8 chris fawcett

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:23 AM

I also saw Avatar in IMAX 3D, and loved it. If I'd watched it in 2D, I'd have probably though it an average movie—so presentation can mean a lot. The polarizing system, and sitting right in front of an oversize screen, helped make this my first positive 3D experience. Third time around, I think 3D is no longer a fad, and I look forward to my next experience of it.

I have one observation. In the animated sequences, I felt immersed in the film, but in the real-life sequences, I would occasionally look around the screen, and be surprised that the background was out of focus. I'd continually try to resolve it with my eye. In a 2D film I expect the background to be out of focus, and love the input that variable depth of field gives to the narrative. In 3D, being unable to scan the room like I would if I were really there, threw me out of the story.

Watching material shot on 65 has amazed me since I saw Lawrence of Arabia as a boy, but 3D material might look better shot on smaller multi-megpixel chips. Today's small chips are too noisy, and lack the colour depth, and maybe quantum limitations mean that individual pixel size is approaching a limit, but if technology manages to sidestep this issue—as is technology's usual response to 'limits'—we might be shooting 3D on smaller formats. I personally would love to have the ability to look around the scene, and find it all in perfect focus. I'd be more 'there.'

Kudos to Cameron for bringing us this far.

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#9 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:34 AM

I think this is a pretty cool idea. I may even try and get to a pub on Sunday to watch the game in 3D.

Ermm.... the steadicam ops at these events? I know Alf Tramontin does a lot of the football here in the UK. Does whoever operating at the weekend match have to fly 3D rig for 90 minutes with only half time as a break!?

I wonder if anyone knows if the steadicam coverage from the sidelines will even be in 3D? Does anyone have any photos of an op with a 3D rig at a hand-egg match in the States - Sorry I mean football! :P hehe

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#10 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 11:22 AM

I think this is a pretty cool idea. I may even try and get to a pub on Sunday to watch the game in 3D.



Using 3D beer goggles?
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#11 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:01 PM

haha! ;)
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#12 MarkKaravite

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 11:58 PM

There are several 3D networks coming online in 2010: ESPN, Direct TV, Discover/Sony and more in Europe. Vince Pace (Cameron's 3D partner in development) has joined forces with NEP to build a complete 3D sports production vehicle. We used custom 3D camera rigs on Steadicam for a Lollapalooza 3D feature, but I don't know if Pace HD/NEP have any Steadicam friendly cameras.

With ESPN 3D starting in July, and touting 85 events in 2010, sports is surely paving the way for 3D TV. We'll see if TV audiences embrace 3D. With smaller screens, the field of view where an acceptable 3D viewing experience is achieved is greatly diminished. Sony, LG & Panasonic all unveiled 3D televisions at CES. Although expensive now, you will be able to view this summers World Cup in 3D / HD.

This current hype on 3D in television is, in my opinion, purely profit driven. With most homes owning HD sets, and therefore sales of HD sets slowing down, the manufacturers are looking for the next upgrade to sell the viewing public, and 3D is it. It's no coincidence that Sony and Panasonic are major sponsors for all of the 3D networks coming out this year.

As operators, 3D savvy will certainly make us more marketable. Get used to a convergence puller next to your focus puller. Maybe it's time to buy another FIZ?
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:42 AM

there are a number of projects out there that weren't shot in 3D but will be 3D when they're released in theaters. It costs less to fake it on the computer than it did to actually shoot it with the two cameras, I don't know about this one Sony's got coming out with the single lens. I'm just hoping someone can distract George Lucas with some muffins or something, anything, long enough so he forgets about re-releasing Star Wars in 3D.

Of course the concept doesn't work with a live broadcast, though
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#14 Dan Ayers

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:39 AM

I just received an e-mail from DirectTV and they say they are offering 3 3D channels this year. I also heard of someone going to do a 3D Porno!

It is another Fad or the Future?

Dan
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#15 Simon Wyndham

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 02:42 PM

I've seen real football (American Football) in 3D, and by god 3D was made for it. it was awesome


Ye, but your football uses hands more than feet, so surely it is handball? ;) We in the UK have real handball, and call it Rugby ;)

But back to the topic. Sky's move is going to be an interesting one to watch. What I am having difficulty working out is how well 3D will really work in a live environment when you have to zoom in etc. On a film set you can fine tune the lens positions and play with different perspectives to suit the shot. I'm not sure how this will work for Sky's productions.
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