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#1 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 12:47 PM

Hi Guys,

After some figures on weights here. If anyone could give me a rough estimate on the wight of the following it would be great. I'm being asked to fly:

Panaflex Millenium XL - Lightweight
A Full 400ft mag
Prime Primo (Im guessing a 25mm)
BFD with M One

I can only take 15kg on my stage, (around 33 pounds) Im thinking its' not going to be enough to support the above. Even without, rods, cables etc

What do you think?

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#2 Jerry Franck

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:37 PM

here ya go jamie:
http://www.steadicam...?showtopic=3366

But are you flying the XL or the LW?

I believe you're gonna be close to maxing out your G50 nevertheless...
Get ready for some knob dialing!

Good luck!
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#3 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:06 PM

"Panaflex Millenium XL....."
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#4 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 02:48 PM

here ya go jamie:
http://www.steadicam...?showtopic=3366

But are you flying the XL or the LW?

I believe you're gonna be close to maxing out your G50 nevertheless...
Get ready for some knob dialing!

Good luck!


Cheers Jerry.

I'm still waiting for the final camera package details. Not sure what lens they plan on flying etc. I'm only being called in for one shot, and I'm hoping they won't ask me to fly a 100mm lens, because then I know I can't fly it.
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Posted 24 November 2009 - 08:46 PM

I have not flown an XL but I have flown the LW quite a bit with two motor Preston system, transmitter and various lens packages. My G50 handles it but there were a few lenses (I don't remember at the moment) that pushed it to within 1/2 turn of max lift.
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#6 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:12 AM

Here is the camera up on my Archer. It looks a bit silly as the post is so damn long! I think i'm going to strap a lead weight to the battery rods and see if I can shorten the rig a little.

I'm also getting the problem with the gimbal handle getting right in the way of my line of sight to the monitor when operating.

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#7 RobinThwaites

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 12:00 PM

Hi Jamie

You could shorten the post and then tilt the batteries down and also drop the monitor lower as long as you can see it from that angle and it does not mess to much with the dynamic balance.

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#8 Jerry Franck

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 12:23 PM

Yes, I would do whatever it takes to shorten that post.
Lowering batt and monitor is a start and if you have to add weights than maybe you should do that too. I don't know what your shots are but most of the time you don't want a crazy long post.
btw, how much more can you load your rig up with before the arm is maxed out?
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 12:22 AM

...It looks a bit silly as the post is so damn long! I think i'm going to strap a lead weight to the battery rods and see if I can shorten the rig a little...


Steve Fracol make a set of special weights to counter some of the long post issues on the Ultra style sleds. You might send him a message to see if they'll work on your Archer. I've seen them and they look very well made.

Have fun!

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#10 Jerry Holway

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 02:33 PM

Jamie-

A better bet would be the Tiffen weights designed for the Archer (or Clippers or Ultras) - they attach to either the battery or monitor rods and can be stacked... you get rotational inertia as well as benefit of working with a shorter post. Steve's weights are great, but are designed for a bigger dovetail on the bottom of the sled, as in the Clippers and Ultras. See Chris Fawcett's tome on unsing these weights with the Archer2.

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#11 Matteo Quagliano

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 11:22 AM

Being an archer 1 owner, does these weights fits A1' battery rods? And is it good to put weights over there? I mean, archer bottom is an arch and not perpendicular, can the force in this way applied affect the balance or the inertia of the rig? Because in my guess mounted where I can put them they counterbalance the battery weight and the post, in this order.

I hope I've explained myself clearly. But I'm not sure about that.

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#12 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:21 PM

Awesome. I think I may invest in some of those tiffen weights. They look pretty flexible with mounting options. It's a shame I couldn't fly that camera on Sunday. I was so excited about it. Insurance problems eh....
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