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#1 Steadiworks

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 06:45 PM

Hello people i`m having some trouble when shooting outdoors, when in sunlight or even with the sky full of clouds i cant see anything in my monitor anyone had the same problem? how did you solved that? Thanks!
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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:18 PM

Which monitor do you own? It sounds like you need a sun hood or the cheap alternative, black wrap and gaff tape.
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Posted 16 October 2009 - 06:47 AM

My monitor its actually an old portable dvd player screen that i adapted to fit in to the rig adding a canon connector to it
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Posted 16 October 2009 - 06:13 PM

Well, there you go. Steadicam monitors are designed to work in sunlight, via anti-reflective coatings and increased output, which makes them cost a lot more than standard monitors, either tube or LCD. Lots of information here about monitors of all stripes if you do a search.

And you will need to change your screen name to your real name per forum policy.
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 03:39 PM

Thanks, so i guess i`ll be changing my monitor XD


About the name i already tried to change it but i can`t do it, the forum says that i don`t have permission to do that :S
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 01:55 PM

Hi everyone!
I don't own anything, but operate with rented steadicams. In my case I have never been lucky with monitors, always had a problem with daylight visibility. During the last job while taking the shot the crew members helped by moving behind that rig, so there could be seen at least pi.. of the picture. And that monitor was original part of that rig old only about couple of years, but completely unusable outdoors on bright sky! So it isn't always the case that the original rig monitor had to work properly with normal outdoor conditions. I think that is the most critical part of any steadicam. By the way is there any 7 or 8 inch lcd which can do it, please let me know just in case if I decide to compose my own rig..

Josip
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#7 Charles Papert

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 04:09 AM

What brand and model rig was it that you were using, out of curiousity?

Regarding 7-8" monitors, quite a few threads on that one. Look under "monitors", especially the threads about the Monitor Shootouts. The best of the current crop still aren't quite as good as the best green screens, but they are getting quite good.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 08:12 AM

Hi everyone!
I don't own anything, but operate with rented steadicams. In my case I have never been lucky with monitors, always had a problem with daylight visibility. During the last job while taking the shot the crew members helped by moving behind that rig, so there could be seen at least pi.. of the picture. And that monitor was original part of that rig old only about couple of years, but completely unusable outdoors on bright sky! So it isn't always the case that the original rig monitor had to work properly with normal outdoor conditions. I think that is the most critical part of any steadicam. By the way is there any 7 or 8 inch lcd which can do it, please let me know just in case if I decide to compose my own rig..

Josip

Seems to me, that you are renting wrong equipment....
Since you are "close" to me we can speak for long term rental....


Just a business guys!Don't be mad at me!

I'll be up with 7" wide screen transflective LCD with build-in level and optional external sensor fro 01/2010
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#9 Josip Pavelic

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 08:28 AM

It was the V-25 rig. It's only about 10k system, but I've heard that the same monitor (with other name on it) is the part of another 25k rig, from one of the major brands! The other case was on another set when I used 3a steadicam with modified sled. They changed the original crt for one 4:3 five inch lcd, I don't remember which brand, and the same thing - almost useless in the terms of daylight visibility.
But after all the result, the footage filmed with this rigs was great (the dp and rest of the crew agreed).
Yes, they (manufacturers) have a lot of work to do in the future to improve in that area. And one another thing: how's that the cheap cameras as Sony FX-1 does have very good integrated lcd in matter of daylight viewing?
Yes Charles I read everything regarding today's lcd-s, that's why I asked that question. The only thing I don't like about crt-s (todays existing two) is the screen size. The manufacturers definetly does have a lot of space to improve lcd-s.
Do you guys agree that the monitor is the worse part of the system?

Best regards..
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#10 Jess Haas SOC

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 03:09 PM

Sony has been using transflective LCDs in their camcorders for a while now which is why they work so well outside. As far as I know small transflective LCDs are much simpler and cheaper to make than 7" which is part of why they aren't as prevalent. Marshall has a nice reasonably priced tansflective LCD but it is 4:3 and severly lacking in other features.

~Jess
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