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#1 Bart Wierzbicki

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:20 AM

Hey guys,
I have a steadicam Pilot.
I really love those 360 degree shots (very fast) around a person what you see a lot in for example music videoclips.
I'm trying to do the same, but I just can't get it right. <_<
Is there any kind of trick ?
Are they doing it very slow and then speeding it up in post or are they running like crazy and still maintaining the exact
distance to the object and in frame ?
Any advice would be great. :lol:
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#2 Ed Moore

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:23 AM

If you post a video of your best attempt, we could try and figure out where you're going wrong?
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#3 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 12:28 AM

I really love those 360 degree shots (very fast) around a person what you see a lot in for example music videoclips.
I'm trying to do the same, but I just can't get it right. <_<
Is there any kind of trick ?
Are they doing it very slow and then speeding it up in post or are they running like crazy and still maintaining the exact
distance to the object and in frame ?
Any advice would be great. :lol:



There is a fast 360 in my reel, It's from the TV series Angel, the part used in my reel is a 75mm lens, How did I do it? I ran like hell in a circle around the actors. Maintaining distance is actually easy since you are maintaining frame size. On a 75mm you will see a variation in less than one foot very easily
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#4 Charles Papert

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 12:34 AM

The longer the lens, the faster the apparent speed as the background swirls around. Eric's example of a 75mm is a good lens to make it look fast. If the actor counters by rotating in the opposite direction, it really looks cool.

I myself don't find it exceptionally easy to maintain exact distance and it's a tough shot on focus pullers, so I help both of us out by suggesting that they tape (or chalk) the circle onto the ground. This gives me a "track" to run around and the AC can instantly see if I am deviating by inches in either direction, which may be critical depending on the lens.
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#5 JobScholtze

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 03:40 AM

Its not only the 360 that can be hard to do. To get to stop without falling is something else, lol
Heres an example. Used the zoom to get close as the director wanted it as close as possible. Funny thing is that if you go at that speed, you have no idea where you are when you stop.

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#6 Ed Moore

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 04:42 AM

Its not only the 360 that can be hard to do. To get to stop without falling is something else, lol
Heres an example. Used the zoom to get close as the director wanted it as close as possible. Funny thing is that if you go at that speed, you have no idea where you are when you stop.

360


That's brilliant Job; I could feel myself wanting to fall over when you pulled out of it :)
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#7 Jerry Holway

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 06:26 PM

Bart-

One big key to the precision of any panning shot is to have the sled's balance hold headroom. It's better still if the post is vertical and in dynamic balance (although the panning speed is pretty low in 360's.

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#8 Amando Crespo

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 10:58 PM

If you post a video of your best attempt, we could try and figure out where you're going wrong?

Ok...Ed have reason...Upload a video, it´s the best way....Or, if you´re panning 360º from the center post...you need make-up and smile..Heeey, it´s a kind joke.... Really, upload a video, please.
Best regards.
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#9 Kevin Andrews SOC

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 04:49 PM

Ok...Ed have reason...Upload a video, it´s the best way....Or, if you´re panning 360º from the center post...you need make-up and smile..Heeey, it´s a kind joke.... Really, upload a video, please.
Best regards.


Ha ha yes!

And nice work Job. Holding that shot tight was crazzzy!
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#10 JobScholtze

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 05:04 PM

Thanks guys. Yes, it was fun

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