About the Paris workshop...
Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:07 AM
From what I read on the board, it seems like the US workshops are a lot more user oriented, where everyone brings its own gear which seems to make a lot of sense to me : I want to become proficient with my own gear, not Tiffen's !!!
No wonder why it's not sold out at all ! The guys over here have it all wrong, it seems...
Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:22 AM
Posted 27 July 2005 - 01:24 PM
Posted 27 July 2005 - 02:58 PM
I've sponsered several Steadicam workshops in the U.S. Our policy, not necessarily Tiffen's, is that these are Steadicam workshops not Glidecam, Basson, MkV, or anyone else's workshops.
Think about the support, booking, shipping, and everything else any manufacturer provides for such an event. The workshops I've been involved with and the instructors I've worked with all agree that the idea of a workshop isn't for the sponsors, the manufacturers, or anyone else to get rich. The idea is to train operators. I think it's one of those what comes around goes around karma type things.
The skills you learn can be used with any rig. I know we've trained a bunch of Glidecam operators at our Steadicam workshops in the past, they used the Steadicam rigs we provided, or their own Steadicams, and after they went home they used their Glidecams. Never a complaint.
Posted 27 July 2005 - 03:25 PM
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 02:20 AM
It has nothing to do with "Tiffen showing off their gear."
Nobody pushed Tiffen gear at the PA workshop I attended. It was a well-organised, comprehensive workshop, with plenty of discussion of other systems.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:01 AM
If you are looking at doing a workshop Please consider Australia down under Myself , Phil Balsdon and operators teach at Melbourne University great place for a holiday as well .
I would like to thank Tiffen (cp) for createing these workshops With out there support (and yes the sale of there rigs ) : I would not be operating today (I fly a pro )
Posted 28 July 2005 - 01:25 PM
The Paris workshop is intended as an advanced workshop so will be quite different to the optex course, hence why I am considering it.
I suspect howard is now concentrating on his AR training but he does also offer advanced training days.
In paris, I think you ll want to use their kit.... for the simple reason that you can learn how the others live. the little mods u could later make to your rig. Take your rig and keep it in the car... im sure you ll end up playing with it on one of the days. Trying and playing with different rigs all the time I feel is very important. There are often circumstances where you need to hop into some elses rig at short notice.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:00 PM
Posted 29 July 2005 - 02:10 AM
I'll save the 2500? towards an Mk-V rig !
Posted 29 July 2005 - 07:39 AM
Of course there's only one type of rig. How could you learn anything changing rigs every half hour?
If you learn well, you'll earn it all back in a couple of day's work.
Posted 29 July 2005 - 07:32 PM
At the last Melbourne workshop (in Jan this year) we had 9 students. With 3 rigs, and 3 instructors, and myself as an Instructors Assistant / Support Person. We had a Master Series Film, Masters Elite and a Pro 2 with the lot.
Every year we have had extremly different rigs. Year 1 we had 2 x 3a's a Provid, and a Pro 2. And another year we had a Masters Film, Pro 2 and a Glidecam Gold.
And we have always kept the 1-3 ratio of rigs and instructors, because as we all know we learn almost as much from operating rigs as from watching how others operate and hearing their feedback from instructors as well.
We found that the students came out of the workshop with a great knowolodge of pretty much all the sorts of rigs that are available out there. Because we are so far away from the USA, and with the limited amount of gear available here (getting better now) we wanted to expose students to all sorts of different equipment and as was said in a previous post a large support group within and outside Australia. Alot of the time we cant afford to fly 12000 miles to LA to check out the new rigs etc. So we try to bring them to the workshop.
Every year we have run the course at least 2 people have gone out and actually purchased rigs. One year we had I think 5 people get rigs. Which have ranged from Masters, Ultras, to Glidecam Golds and others.
Hope this gives you an idea about where we are coming from.