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#1 arielmanuelsalati

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:21 AM

Hi Guys,

I do own an Ultra brite 2 tiffen monitor HD

and when I'm shooting with Red Scarlet or Epic the monitor

can't find the signal.It goes: 'HD invalide mode'

 

Does it is a problem on the camera settings?

maybe about external signal  (1080p,720p,etc...)

because I haven't any issues with Alexa,Sony,etc...

 

any advice about it?

 

 

thank you

 

Ariel

 

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#2 Victor Lazaro

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:42 AM

It might be related to the true progressive signal given by the REDs versus PsF (Progressive segmented Frame http://en.wikipedia....segmented_frame) that most monitors do.

I don't use  the Ultra Brite Monitor but I know the RED has issues with some monitors because of it's signal.

 

http://www.reduser.n...Epic-SDI-output


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#3 Tom Wills

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 12:19 PM

Try turning the camera into 720p mode instead of 1080. The Epic and Scarlet output full 1080 at 23.98 fps progressive. Very few other cameras output their signal over HDSDI as full progressive - most, especially older cameras, output their signal as PsF, which means its outputting an interlaced signal where the two interlaced segments are each half of a progressive frame. Your monitor may have been designed with PsF in mind, but in 720, signals have always been progressive, so the monitor shouldn't be thrown off by the progressive signal coming out of the Epic.

Hope that helps!
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#4 Alan Rencher

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:29 PM

I've had Epics burn out my 3G SDI board on my Marshall. I talked to another op who had the same problem twice. I don't know what the problem is with Epics and some monitors, but I hope that someone figures it out, and comes up with a solution.


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#5 chris bangma

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 04:27 PM

Check to see if the Tiffen supports 3G, it most likely does not, so you will be limited to 720.


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#6 arielmanuelsalati

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 01:57 PM

Thank you guys.

I'll try if does it works switching to 720 p mode and about the 3G

 

I really do appreciate your aswers

 

Ariel

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#7 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:33 PM

Supported Video Formats:
HDSDI: 720 50p, 720 59.94p, 720 60p, 1080 23.98i, 1080 24i, 1080 25i, 1080 29.97i, 1080 30i, 1080 23.98p, 1080 24p,
1080 25p, 1080 29.97p, 1080 30p
 

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#8 Victor Lazaro

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:10 PM

 

Supported Video Formats:
HDSDI: 720 50p, 720 59.94p, 720 60p, 1080 23.98i, 1080 24i, 1080 25i, 1080 29.97i, 1080 30i, 1080 23.98p, 1080 24p,
1080 25p, 1080 29.97p, 1080 30p
 

 

Yes, but it is true 1080P or is it PsF? Which basically displays one single frame split in two fields...


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#9 Bob Gundu

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:04 PM

Epic does not do PsF. It is true progressive through the SDI. 


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#10 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:34 PM

 

 

Supported Video Formats:
HDSDI: 720 50p, 720 59.94p, 720 60p, 1080 23.98i, 1080 24i, 1080 25i, 1080 29.97i, 1080 30i, 1080 23.98p, 1080 24p,
1080 25p, 1080 29.97p, 1080 30p
 

 

Yes, but it is true 1080P or is it PsF? Which basically displays one single frame split in two fields...

 

:blink: it says P for progressive, i don't understand the post


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#11 Greg McGuinness

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 11:41 AM

Hey Folks,

 

I realise this is an old thread, so maybe some of you have found a solution since initial posting?

I was wondering if a decimator 2 would help the situation?

It'd be small enough to fit onto the back of the UB2 and therefore I wouldn't need to get a new monitor.

Any info would be great.

 

Many thanks,

Greg


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#12 mirko

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:13 AM

I had the moreor less same problem.
I send the steady to Carmine in Italy.
He found that the SDI signal was jittering, so for the monitor was a problem to lock the signal.
He fix perfectly....
He is in Italy, e-mail is : carmize@hotmail.it
He do many service on cinema equipment plus develop software AMD hardware project....
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