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#1 chris fawcett

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 03:12 PM

Dear Friends and Colleagues,

I just tested the new Accessory Balance Weights developed by Tiffen, and I want to share my impressions with you...

Full review here.

All the best,

Chris
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#2 Ken Nguyen

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 04:11 PM

Hm... Good idea! but it looks cheap because of the round shape! (Indian stuffs on ebay)
I prefer a square shape weight and a well machined mounting bracket.

my 2 cents,
Ken Nguyen.
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#3 RonBaldwin

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 05:40 PM

A nice write-up/pics as always Chris. Though I am a bit baffled that people are adding weights to a sled. Seems adding a battery or two would accomplish about the same thing and do something other than being heavy? More power is always a plus.

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#4 Jerry Holway

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:14 AM

Ron et al-

Here are some reasons Tiffen’s been designing accessory weights for the Merlin and Pilot, and now for the Archers, Clippers, and Ultra2’s.

First, the arms now carry a very wide range of weights vs the old arms (600 or more % vs 250% or so). In order to fully take advantage of these arms, sleds need to be inherently lighter for the lightest loads, and heavier for the heaviest loads – a situation not really applicable for the old arm as and sleds. Also, with the lightest cameras, more weight needs to be added “up top.”

Morever, the adding and removing of weights needs to be fast and and secure, and the position flexible for operator choice – just for balance or adding inertia as you choose. Batteries aren’t dense enough, they are expensive, and they are hard and expensive to mount well, especially in all the ways we’d like to mount them (and if you need them when you swap batteries, you have more changes to make -it’s klutzy).

Chris’s article explains oh so well how neat and efficient these new weights are.

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#5 RonBaldwin

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:30 AM

Hi Jerry -- good point about the weight/size factor -- a 2 lb battery is bigger than a 2 lb piece of lead. I get what you are saying.

I really wasn't talking about the smaller rigs. I can see where extra batts might be impractical there with space limitations and no real need for extra power with some of these smaller cameras. I was referring to the bigger rigs and the more power hungry/heavier cameras we are flying nowadays. We all carry nearly a dozen batteries (some more!) that might be of use in this situation.

I suppose I was thinking that adding one battery to the back of the monitor and another to the rear of the sled might accomplish a similar goal weight-wise with the added benefit of twice the run time/more needed power.

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#6 chris fawcett

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:35 AM

Hi Ken,

it's a pity you dislike the roundness! For a stacking system that's fast to rig, adjust, and strike, I find it the sensible option. The mounting brackets are well-machined. They are simple to mount, and lock completely rigid with a quick twist of the weight.

Just my 2 lbs...
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#7 Katerina Kallergis

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 11:49 PM

Thanks for the post Chris. This is definitely something I will invest in. My rig only has about 6 inches of play as far as extending the post goes, so the extra weight will certainly come in handy. Great design, too!!

-Kat
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#8 chris fawcett

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:12 AM

Hey Kat,

I'm glad you like them. After only 2 weeks, I find them indispensable!

All the best,

Chris
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 06:30 AM

An update:

I now top/bottom balance my rig almost exclusively by adding and removing balance weights. This keeps the post always the same length, unless I want it longer for reasons too myriad to go into here.

My usual configuration is one/two under the post and one/two on the monitor bracket. I really recommend this system.

Chris
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Posted 25 February 2017 - 07:56 PM

Can you use these with any 19mm rail system?
For instance will these fit on the 19mm bars from my mkv monitor rails?
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#11 chris fawcett

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 04:11 AM

Tiffen makes two sizes of bar clamps for the weights, and also an adjustable return-monitor mount that will carry them. Most important to know is rod spacing, as the clamps, I believe, are universal. I suggest you get in touch directly with Tiffen for better info.

All the best,

Chris
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#12 chris fawcett

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 04:12 AM

Tiffen makes two sizes of bar clamps for the weights, and also an adjustable return-monitor mount that will carry them. Most important to know is rod spacing, as the clamps, I believe, are universal. I suggest you get in touch directly with Tiffen for better info.

All the best,

Chris
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